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Tribal or Non-Tribal is the question???

Well, as may of you may have been personally seeing, there is a situation brewing between our onac KM and an apparent sibling church which we believe to be run by an alleged "Medicine Man" by the name of Christopher Robin Hulliger, a native of Delaware who lives in California. Though this had Absolutely nothing to do with Our point, apparently he feels it is the only point that is apparently supposed to matter in the minds of those he's offended, so fine, let's take a look just to appease him, shall we.

According to his many rants as he tries to distract away from our issue with him, Hulliger Claims to be of the "Lene Lenape", a tribe that is rooted in the northeast coast of the United States. Because he continues to be so persistent, we felt it only right if we reached out to the tribe and inquired in search of the answer as prompted by many to do.

Curtis Zunigha, the Director of the Cultural Resources Dept. for the Delaware Tribe of Indians responded the following: "I checked with our enrollment department and this individual is not enrolled in the federally-recognized Delaware Tribe of Indians."

Before we could publicly address it, Mr. Hulliger began not only pressing that he is in fact tribally carded from this tribe, but added to it stating he is a Sundancer who devoted 3 years of his life Sundancing for the NAC. Though we have never personally seen him without a shirt on, those we know who have say he has no scars from piercing front Or back. He also began making more claims of tribal bloodlines deserving of respect as being his bloodline but we're not going to go out into left field with all of That here, right now, we're gonna remain focused on his initial claim, which is that he is of this tribe, as you can see he's pretty insistant about.

If only his postings didn't change abruptly and contradictory it would make it all the more easier to keep focused o the points he's trying to make, but we'll find and address them all eventually. We must admit, he Sounds like he really knows what he's talking about, especially to those who don't know the details about this tribe's history, but, it doesn't necessarily make it true Nor does it confirm whether or not he is a carded member of that tribe, ad since that's the point He insists on making as if it some how changes or excuses him from the original issue we addressed which has led him to all of this... his dishonorable handling of a sacred artifact to our church as well as most if not all North American tribes.

Because Hulliger Insists that the spelling of the tribal name could make his tribal records un-found, we Again made contact with Mr. Zunigha asking the following favor of him:

"Good morning Sir, sorry to bother you again, but, the gentleman I inquired about has now said that he is "Lene Lenape" and that if I had inquired with a different spelling which I had, that it would prevent you from confirming him, so I wanted to check with you and make sure that it's not the case. Again, his name is Christopher Robin Hulliger, and his date of birth is March 3rd 1962 and says he was born in Seaford, Delaware.If you don't mind, could you double check ad confirm your findings, and or put me into contact with the tribe so I can, it's very important I am sure in my information as I am pushing for his excommunication from our mother church.Thank you so much, and again I apologize for having to bother you with this."

This was the official response we received back from Mr. Zunigha:

"I have already confirmed. Lenni Lenape is the traditional language name for many Algonquin-speaking people originally inhabiting (what is now) PA/NJ/NY. They were later named Delaware by British colonial powers in the mid 18th century. Certain groups of those descendants are now organized as federally-recognized tribes. There are two in Oklahoma. They are Delaware Tribe of Indians (the tribe you're in communication with here) and Delaware Nation located in Anadarko, OK. There are many who claim descendancy from the original Lenape people. They may or may not be organized and may or may not be recognized by state governments or tribal communities. I can only speak for the Delaware Tribe of Indians and have confirmed that he is NOT an enrolled member of our tribe. He may claim to be Lenni Lenape but he is NOT one of us.***"

The reason that we found ourselves in the position of having to question Hulliger's integrity is because of his dishonorable conduct regarding a very sacred symbol to the people and his dishonor of the while of Oklevueha when he did it. The article best describing it can be found here for your review:

Long story short for those of you who don't want to click over and read, we as Kautantowit's Mecautea, along with a great many other voices in and beyond Oklevueha feel that Hulliger dishonored a very sacred symbolic artifact and all of the tribal culture who honor and revere it. What was it you ask... will you believe us if we tell you is the question, because the answer is a Highly endangered and federally illegally killed baby Kermode, aka "Spirit Bear" cub, and yes you read that right too, Cub, as in a Baby!

The sacredness of this bear to the whole of our First Nations tribal culture and history in North America is so sacred that multiple tribes in Canada along with environmental groups and organizations actually came together and got a law passed Protecting not only these bears, but an entire rain forest know as "The Great Bear Forest" which is exactly where this little guy is about to arrive... HOME, where he Belonged to begin with.

We feel it's important that we reiterate a few key points, at least as far as we and our position are concerned, firs being that we have never said nor accused Mr. Hulliger of killing that cub. We didn't even Ask how he got it because to us it's irrelevant- the point is that he Obtained the bear and did Not do the right and honorable thing by it, which may seem trivial to many, but to have dishonorably have handled such a sacred symbol of tribal culture As an ONAC spiritual leader and especially while Presenting yourself as a "Medicine Man" of such a church to Us is the focal issue, and yet instead of just owning it, he instead chose to take it farther and not only post lies that contradicts himself from one post to the next about it, but too, he decided to throw up all these different "Tribal" bloodlines and connections he has as if somehow to say he is Excused from such moral accountability Because he is of this tribe and all these other honorable things within the tribal culture. NONE OF THIS has Anything to do with our original position or point - he dishonorably handled that bear and tribal or not he needs to acknowledge that and did what he can to make it right, not lie and even threaten those you've obviously already insulted by your dishonorable conduct, right?

You can see in his public rants on our church posting of the original story which again is above for your convenience, why we are left with the position of having to once again address this publicly... he won't just man up ad ow what he did so we can move on, instead he wants to insist that he's not done anything wrong and then threat threat threat. to us that is not only inappropriate behavior but very Unbecoming of a church spiritual leader whatever your "race" might be, but especially in reflection of a Native American Church leader and again, regardless of race we would stand in the exact Same position across the board whoever behaved so dishonorably and disrespectfully while representing our church like that. the fact that HE continues to insist that he is so tribally connected by bloodline to us only makes the wound and insult that much more deep because it's He that should have know better all the more than someone in his shoes who had little or no tribal bloodline at all.

Oklevueha has been under the scrutiney of "Indian Country" since it established, ad among there top issues of question and upset was in that they felt ONAC didn't honor or show respect to tribal culture or sacred artifacts. Mainly their focus was on our handling of feathers, so how much more-so would be their upset to find that not a member but a Leader of ONAC was mis-treating a sacred Spirit Bear cub? We are getting confirmation from may from "Indian Country" assuring us that we are standing in the right and honorable way on this, and they are wondering why it is that ONAC isn't taking the honorable stand with us. Honestly, we find ourselves wondering the same thing, especially when it's stated that he has not only "Been Cleared" by one of our church founders, but too that he's actually being Rewarded with the blessing of Another ONAC church, this one is said to be going to establish o the northeast coast.

We also feel it's important to go ahead and address here, that we have been receiving many calls from many from within "Indian Country" including from family members of the Crowdog family who have also expressed Great Upset at the claims Hulliger has made in regards to their family pipe, first being that Hulliger is claiming connection to it, and second that he doesn't even address It in a honorable way as he does. One of the family members sent photographs taken at a family gathering many moons ago stating that it shows "Uncle Leonard with myself and my step-son at the family gathering" because he wanted it clearly shown that his voice should be heard on this too, and his words are upset as he said "How dare this Hulliger punk claim such connection to the Crowdog honor!"

Again, andthough we totally see and respect the upset about Hulliger's claims, to us such things are not our issue with him, not that we would't stand on the side of whose right which may prove to be against him, our issue with Hulliger remains just as we've stated from the beginning - he dishonored All the honor and integrity of ONAC when he chose to not honorably handle and put away this sacred little spirit bear cub, period, bottom line - that is and remains our point and we Continue to wait for him to own it, tribal or not, you shamed all of us who know and now are cleaning up Your mess Sir, and we just want to see you Acknowledge it. Obviously an apology is't gonna change or right what you did, but continuing to lie about it, and then to try to pull more and more into it and throw them under the bus of shame like you Already have ONAC to us, just makes You look all the worse... and your threats, whether they be against our sachem, our church or even upon the whole of ONAC we believe remain without any merit. We have tried to remain civil and even have gone out of our Sachem's way trying to keep you focused on the point that your decision regarding how to handle that bear was Dishonorable, nothing more nothing less, and she's even tried correcting your twistings of our words regarding what little details had been published, but you continue on, implicating more and more and upsetting more and more people, not to mention Continuing to bring Shame upon Oklevueha as well as yourself.

This is why ONAC KM have taken the step back from ONAC, because until you begin to conduct yourself in honorable way, which would be to simply stop and just stick to the point and the truth without all of the unnecessary lies and back-peddling and even Threats and innuendo, this Could have been handled with less eyes, and the only reason it has and now continues to be addressed publicly is because YOU continue making big mountains where it's bad enough you made a molehill be to begin with. As we continue to say Mr. Hulliger - our points are real clear - you had a sacred spirit bear cub in your possession and chose to "leave for collateral" this bear and Other things For the use of a machine designed to only make money, big money. As a regular person, that may be all it was, but to a Native America Church which reflects upon "Indian Country", it was Dishonorable conduct, especially while presenting yourself as a leader and a medicine person there-of, trying to justify being Excused of it because you claim "tribal bloodline" to us only deepens the wound of your shameful blow. Personally, if we were you and Did have tribal connection like that and had been caught up in This, we woulda kept our mouth's Shut about our bloodline we just too got caught dishonoring, but hey, it was your place to do and you decided to, ad now, from the sounds of things, many from within Indian Country feel you got some real Explaining to do - that's on you, our position ad point remains clear as from the first article... balls in Your court now sir regarding This issue., it's between you, ONAC, Creator and Indian Country... we wish you luck with all of that.

One more quick point before we move on to something less dramatic. We have bee getting many calls asking about the bear itself. People have read Hulliger's postings on him and they say they are remaining confused on two points. First they say they note where he said he had bought the bear from an antique store, for $40.00 and begins to insist that that proves that the bear is fake somehow, but that then he made a few posts indicating that the opposite may be true, especially the post he made about having talked to the "Game" department and had confirmed that because the bear was "over 50 pounds" that it "Was a legal kill" and therefore it's We who are making this something out of nothing. More than not he insists that the bear is not real, and even offers confirmation from a "hunter", but does make it a point to state that if it Was real, that he didn't know and Couldn't tell the difference, and too, his main advocate hasinsisted Unconditionally that the bear is fake and so it's We who are making the mountain and apparently too the molehill.

Our response to that question remains in that Our point is that he had possession of the bear, which he Has admitted to several times in public posts, and that the bear is in fact REAL, it has been confirmed by Many various experts, and the Closest we've yet to see him come to admit just that was in his post saying Game told him it was a "legal kill". The reason Mr. Hulliger has chose to lie and side-step and point fingers at others and threaten and implicate his alleged bloodlines and all the other things he's been doing, while ADMITTING our point is true - that he Did have possession of the bear and that ultimately he Has admitted in public post that He put this bear into this mix, is because we remain right in Every aspect of our position and he Knows it.

But since he insists we all "Go there", then damn-it let's get on with it so we can move forward with more of the many pressing things at hand, so to help add some clarity and insight to the bear itself, and keep in mind that what we are about to tell you has not Yet been publicly been made known. You can see that our point has been on the bear himself, and we confidently confirm to you that the bear was a little boy cub that has wound up in this mix Because of the dishonorable decision by Mr. Hulliger (and another yet to be addressed by us Yet) however the cub found his way into Hulliger's hands. Fake bears don't usually don't find themselves having to try to hide and ultimately botching the fact that there was a ball sack.

Mr. Hulliger knows, especially if he Is tribal bloodlines as he says, that the Kermode bear is very sacred to most all the tribes of North America, especially more than one that he is claiming to be "his people", and he Knows that he Disrespected it by handling it dishonorable way. Symbolically it should have been viewed as very sacred artifact and it was instead used to make money, that is Not what the tribal culture is about, else them tribes would re-own all the lad by now opposed to remaining oppressed on "POW" land! We and may find it Hard to believe as he claims, that he couldn't tell a real bear from a fake stuffed toy because even small Children who have seen this bear are almost Instantly convinced ad proven accurate in telling the difference between a real and fake bear and have confirmed along with various experts Unanimously that it is in fact a real bear we're dealing with here Thanks to Mr. Hulliger and friend that we will be later speaking on for similar reason.

Part of why the article has wound Hulliger up so much is because ultimately he seems convinced he's done nothing Wrong. Our position remains that he did, he dishonored the bear, ONAC by bringing we and our insignia directly into it, and now he's extending (or attempting) to extend this dishonor onto multiple tribal families and tribes opposed to just accepting that HE messed up, that HE made the Wrong decision in regards to the "Right thing" to do about this bear As a "Leader" and "Medicine man" of this church. It is a shameful blackeye deserved him, but Not the rest of us from "Indian Country" and we not only will Not suffer it with him, but we as KM will NOT overlook, condone or forgive it either because it's not our place to do so, he put himself in it, and he's a grown ass Man so he alone needs to own up to it and be corrected in his ways Especially if he Is going to continue representing himself as an ONAC leader. That is our position and opinion and we will stick to it and the side of what's right and just. We will Not be backed down or away by threats from him or any others, nor will We be corrupted with the offerings of Money and profit percentages to play dumb and overlook Shame brought upon our church, people and tribal cultures.

As far as we are concerned, this is done - people know the truth and too, people see which side of this situation KM chooses to stand on. Now it's up to everyone else including Creator and this poor little murdered bear cub to run their coarse... But, before we finish addressing This issue, there Are a few more things we feel we should Now go ahead and make known, since it's been brought to this level, because We Think and Hope that it will help dispell any doubt from the mis-information you've been intentionally been being fed by those with reason to squirm; the first being that Yes, again this is a REAL bear cub that was once literally physically Alive.

The second point for Us, is that this little bear, and we Emphasize the word Little because All who have thus far seen and professionally examined him have been in SHOCK at how little this little guy really physically is, all Doubt that een fully physically intact that he weighed "More than 50 pounds", is fact thus far all seem to be willing to bet that there's no way he Was even 50 pounds, but the Scientific tests being prepared now are hoped to provide more conclusive answers regarding that and too, we're hoping the little guy's age.

The third most disturbing factor to yet reveal itself, for us anyway, is not just That he was killed, but HOW he was killed, because like him being a sacred symbol to the tribes And being endangered And too being a Baby at that as small as he is, the Dishonor and bad medicine this poor little bear has been further plagued with is in How he Was killed.

This baby bear could in No Way shape or form been seen as any sort of a Threat to any, and yet he wasn't shot or hit by a car or anything that jumps to mind when thinking "dead baby bear"... this little guy had his Throat Violently Slit... from ear to ear, from right to left in a way that professionals say "About severed his entire head from his little body" when it happened. To us, whoever could do such a thing like that to any, but especially a helpless tiny little Anything, is seriously disconnected from Great Creator to put it Mildly, and indeed we maintain Faith in that Creator WILL NOT overlook this anymore than our church should overlook the intentional lies and "Fit" when he's caught in the wrong by his own doing and decision. Again, for the sake of being clear, we do not KNOW who killed this bear, it's never been our focal, but too, we remain willing to do all we can to ensure this bear and his family obtains the Justice they deserve in every way possible, and spiritually speaking, we continue to await seeing our mother do what's right and just in the hopes they don't try to hide the evidence and continue assuring the world there child is a saint.

A point that's then "A given" to may but apparently not all may still see... our reality remains in that whether a person has "Indian" bloodline or Not, Any adult, especially in there 50's+ Should be able to surely ell the difference between a real and a fake bear, even if the fur and claws don't tip you, surely the sad sewing job where his ballsack was If Not the cut from ear to ear across it's Throat Surely would tip the scales in that "Maybe it's real" at least enough to go ask someone, like say, a Taxidermist, or beings your a NAC leader, maybe ask an elder leader, I mean, do we Really gotta go the extra step and say "And since you'r Indian, maybe go and ask an Indian elder who Knows about bear and it's sacredness maybe... Before deciding it's worth Almost enough as that money making machine you want so to get rich and jump to bartering a deal." That's our position, opinion and expression, and if Mr. Hulliger wishes to "Sue" us for it, he is welcome to try though we're confident he will fail as we haven't stated anything that cannot be backed up with both proof and his own omissions publicly.

KM do not CARE who you or any other are Mr. Hulliger, we have no interest in you or anything your about or into. We do not care whether you remain in ONAC nor more than we care whether or not you're tribal, with NAC, are or are not a Sun Dancer, Chanupa Carrier or anything else. We are not afraid of your threats upon us of lawsuits, violence or any other. What we care about is ensuring we are found standing honorably in our obligation and expectations as warrior soldiers of Great Creator. You chose to dishonor it, not us, you drew that line and put yourself on the other side of it, your thoughts or reasoning make no difference and the situation now Is what it is because of your decision. We Chose to attempt to clean it up for you in the right and honorable way out of Respect for our ONAC family who Don't deserve shame from your bad choices, and we continue to this Day to endure your attacks and threats and Still remain civil enough to try to make our position clear to you.

It is sad to us that you continue to act selfishly and immaturely, to still lie and threaten and throw others under your bus of shame, but it too is your choice. It's sad to see the harm you are causing within ONAC. It is sad to see you rather continue to Shame our whole church and too Damage the bonds being formed between we and Indian Country IF you cared about the people and the medicines we protect so much as you try to appear.

While our Mother church seems willing to Take such disrespectful abuse from you, as is her choice, to see the harm and division you're causing among our siblings is becoming intolerable, even though we have taken our step away doesn't mean we still don't keep eye on our mother ya know, and continue to want what's best for her. While she continues to take your punching her in the eye, you should know that Our civilness toward you out of respect for her and her still insisting it's all ok because your just her upset little child, is about played itself out, and not just with KM but with many of our siblings that make up the Oklevueha family. Mr. Hulliger, we will ask you one Last and final time, to please see that your Drama ends here and now, and we Strongly suggest that you stop disrespecting and hurting our mother, not all of her children might contain themselves as well as we're Trying to here, and you've caused Enough in just this tip of your iceburg already, haven't you?

For all upset by this whole ordeal, you have our deepest of apologies, please kow that we stand with you in your disgust here, but too, only so much can be endured ad ignored before it has to officially become addressed, and though Mr. Hulliger (and friends) want to rant on and on in ways that the Other side remains bound and gagged, here we are, where we cannot be blocked from seeing or addressing his lies on our own page as he's been playing on our social media, and unlike our mother, we will not our a blind eye while you spiral out of control in your actions... time for a time out in the corner, brother. it is not fair for other of our siblings to be spanked hard for less, disowned even from the ONAC family while you run around as if you've done nothing wrong.

Thanks everyone for seeing us through all of this, we promise there will be future updates as to the progresses and all the good medicine now coming from this sweet little bear as he continues his final journey home, and too other pertinent issues and information encompassing all things of interest in our scope as KM far beyond all of this type of unnecessary drama- we will get to better things. Blessings to all, be well.

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